Are you hating, too?

[Antimoni]

any tanks crying over the latest changes? My boyfriend is absolutely pissed about them.

I'm confused why they changed SO much! Have the other tanks in your raids been complaining much? The only thing we hear in our raids is about their stam/hp but I never saw real friction between our warrior and the DK tanks.

[Hymn]

im figuring this is an intentional over-nerf and we'll see them cutting back the changes some.

[Kibaa]

yeah it has been done before where abilities have been hit more then they wanted and scaled em back over testing periods

[MaximusDeath]

or its blizz once again doing surgery with a sledge hammer....

[Saeng]

or its blizz once again doing surgery with a sledge hammer....

This lol.  They'll get it right eventually, they just normally have to take a few swings, then they go back and fix the stuff they broke when they missed lol.

[Antimoni]

Yeah, its just some blue posts like this is pretty scary.

[THECames]

I would be a lot more concerned if I was a bear tank and I was having my HP and armor nerfed.  From what I have heard all the Ulduar fights are undertuned at the moment for those that have lots of 25 man gear.  So, why are you worried?

From GC:
"We also recognize that if we change DK cooldowns that their base mitigation would need to come up to compensate. We futher recognize that doing that too much leads to four tanks with the same exact health, armor and avoidance numbers. We don't want a world where the druid has Bear Wall and Bear Stand and Bear Block all of the same magnitude as the warrior, and some players would argue we are too close to that already."

[Antimoni]

The Ulduar fights are under tuned in general, or at least a few of them are. They are making adjustments as necessary of course, but that has nothing to do with the extent of tanking changes they are making. Some changes I can understand - OK, Will was a bit OP, lets put an inner cooldown on it. But why even COMPLETELY change talents like Blade Barrier - which does nothing more than make up for a Frost presence nerf? These are drastic changes to tanking. Some people have some good suggestions in this thread, but I just hope they rebalance it a bit, because it'll be quite a shock for those who dont pay attention to patch notes/testing comments. (which really are a large part of the community, sadly)

[Gorgrom]

Most the changes were do to the fact that DK's would have easily been able to reach 100% avoidance in Ulduar gear with the talents as they were.