?? training dummy results

[Arinndei]

Im becoming increasingly puzzled by blood spec dps and my good friend the ?? training dummy.

when not raiding im usually found in the floating dk clubhouse calculating parses and respeccing,  having done heavy research into the most popular raiding specs and having tried them all out i cant seem to get good results with a blood spec on the training dummy despite our guilds resident blood dk producing excelent numbers in raids.

Now i understand the obvious differences between a raid dynamic and a self buffed recount on a boss simulator but in frost i average 3.2kdps, in unholy 3.3kdps and in blood i struggle to rise abouve 2.6k and i have no explanation for this.

i use the standard "load death runes, spam HS" rotation that seems to be standard but still fall significantly short of the results achieved in the other specs.

Is it that the boss dummy does not calculate the effects of ArP,  do the other specs over perform on the ?? dummy?

Any feedback would be recieved with interest and especially what dps other dks of all specs are managing on that particular training dummy.

[Antimoni]

Are your diseases ticking correctly? I've heard of diseases ticking for 1s on dummies before, i think it's when they are close to 0%. I know they arent the main dmg in blood, but im sure it doesnt help if it's the case.

I'm not sure what the problem could be otherwise. Have you been combatlogging the fights? I know when uploading to wowmeteronline.com they consider the dummy targets "bosses" and separate the fights. Maybe that can help pinpoint the problem.

[Hymn]

on your DPS tests are you popping CDs? Blood lives on its DRW every 1:30. If you execute that incorrectly your dps suffers immensely.

Aside from that I'm not sure. As far as I know the boss dummy has a decent chunk of armor so the ArP should be working.

[THECames]

Can you link the specs that you have tried?  One thing I "know" (believe?) to be true is that Blood is a great scaling spec.  I am wondering if you are suffering from the lack of raid scaling.  Unholy (I think) is the most friendly to start with.  Frost (at least) carries around its own WindFury.

[zAm]

i have absolutly no problem at the dummy with blood specc and focus on arp,
i am currently doing constant 3.4k dps

[Nev]

dummy dps isn't important.

If you do a raid and your dps is still bad then maybe we can try and help you.

[Arinndei]

I have found a solution,  some suggestions here helped by making me pay more attention to the timing of drw and making sure factors such as a full rp bar, hysteria, loaded disieses etc were prioritised.  The recount now shows a far happier result.

The biggest change however came with the choice of ?? dummy.  Rather than use the dk club house i tried the sneaky one hidden away behind the pvp building in orgrimar, it is possible to position yourself there to avoid any splash damage from heartstrikes cleave and obviously not using pestilance to gain multi ticking dots to corrupt any results.

Im not entirely sure of why the sustained dps showed such improvement however other than two main factors,  because the org training dummy isnt existing under a constant state of dk attack it usually has a full health bar to activate the full shadow bonus of necrosis, this accounted for an extra 4.9% of the total damage done over a 1000k parse.  The second factor was a reduction in glancing blows and parries,  ( my expertise rating has been consistant at 191 / 29 value for all attempts ).

Where as i now have some explanation as to how the dps has improved im still no wiser as to why,  i wouldnt imagine the programmed dynamics of ?? training dummies are different but there seems to be no other reason as to why they would respond to the same medium in different fashions.  May be time to doff the dearstalker and investigate.

As to dummy dps not being important, i largely agree, however i use it as trial method to work on factors such as timing, spec variations, gear differences, rotation tweaking etc etc.  useful to find anything symptomatic of issues that are impractical to test on live raid bosses.  Ive already booked by place for testing after the upcoming dw rethink, lets hope that one comes to something,  more options are always nice.

Thankyou for the feedback on this peoples.

[Flood]

The second factor was a reduction in glancing blows and parries,  ( my expertise rating has been consistant at 191 / 29 value for all attempts ).

Maybe you´ve been standing in front of ebon hold´s dummy and behind the one in org? It´s the first thing coming to my mind when you argue that your expertise didn´t change.